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1. Jon44
   Member

   I always struggle with recovering from doing the long workout early in the season--a workout that makes no sense from a training perspective, but comes from wanting to take advantage of snow when it happens.

   So, skied 3 hours yesterday (Prospect Mountain--good snow and they groomed!) without having done any rollerskiing. I'm wondering about both muscle soreness and aerobic overtaining.

   - Are there any cool new supplements (kind that triathletes fiddle with) to help with muscle recovery for the occasional super-hard workout?
   - For aerobic overtraining, what's the safest route here--take 3 days off? Do extra naps help? Does it make sense to stop all other training a few days before an anticipated snowfall?

   I realize there's really no ideal answer here and everyone is different, but any tips appreciated.

   Thanks,

   Jon

   Posted 6 months ago #

2. Peter Minde
   Member

   For muscle recovery, I'd stretch thoroughly and use a sauna if you have access to one. Rather than take rest days, you might do a couple of short easy workouts with your dryland method of choice. Bike, run etc.

   Other than whey protein, I don't know about any high tech recovery supplements. You haven't mentioned how many hours you put in so I can't speak to the possibility of aerobic overtraining, or rest days before snowfall. Good luck with recovery,

   Posted 6 months ago #

3. timg
   Member

   Contrast baths. Two minutes at 48 degrees and then three minutes at 106 degrees, repeat four times

   Posted 6 months ago #

4. Jon44
   Member

   @Peter: Thanks, it's good to be reminded of "go-to" approaches (and I was surprised not to run into you at Prospect...)

   @timg: For the sake of encouragement, how much of a benefit our these? (E.g., that much better than direct ice on spots that hurt?)

   Posted 6 months ago #

5. Peter Minde
   Member

   Jon, when you're at Prospect Mt, if you see a green Subie with NJ tags and a Grateful Dead sticker... I'm there.

   I agree with timg about contrast baths. When I have the opportunity: hot tub > sauna > cold shower. Repeat.

   Posted 6 months ago #

6. OEB2ODB
   Member

   what ended up happening? how do you feel 4 days later?

   They say the day after an Ironman, the best thing you can do for recovery is to jog for like 20-30 minutes. It is terrible to get started, you will not want move at all, but it will flush the system a bit and you'll feel better in the end.

   Posted 6 months ago #

7. Jon44
   Member

   @OEB2ODB For what it's worth, I did do a 30 minute swim two days later with a long stretch, and I felt good for a few hours, but then muscles sort of tightened up (setting off a bunch of chronic injuries). I wish I could have done this every day, but even an easy 30 minutes felt exhausting after the ski.

   In terms of supplements, I tried L-Glutamine, which is supposed to counteract negative effects of Cortisol (and reduce risk of catching a cold when your immunity is weakened from exertion) and it really seems to work. For me, I can feel it being easier to breathe after taking it and feel less "out of it" in terms of mental focus.

   Aerobically, I'm surprised that I still feel it and I don't know if that's due to getting old (I can't remember it ever taking this long to recover from something), or the fact that snow skiing is just much more aerobically demanding than stuff I've been doing (the whole 4 limb vs. 2 limb idea...)

   Posted 6 months ago #

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