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Ski Walking vs hill bounding?

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  • Started 10 months ago by juniorbiathlete
  • Latest reply from dvoisin

  1. juniorbiathlete
    Member

    What's the real different between ski-walking and hill bounding? I've heard that hill bounding is when there is a time where both feet are off the ground, as where in ski-walking something always touches, is this true?

    When using poles for ski-walking or hill bounding, what length should be used?

    And finally, am I correct in thinking that ski-walking is used for longer duration, lower intensity efforts (usually L3) where hill bounding is typically done in high reps of short duration? (typically L4 or max effort)

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. colbywatts
    Member

    the first paragraph is correct.
    for poles just use the same length poles you normally ski with.
    i would say that ski-walking would be zone 2-3 and bounding would be mid-3 to lowish-4.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. colbywatts
    Member

    i might want to clarify on that a bit actually.
    bounding you are essentially jumping really far forward and using your poles for each step. it's kinda like when you push really hard on your skis to get long glide while classicing except, since you can't glide on the ground you do it in the air.
    ski-walking you do have to keep at least on foot on the ground at all times and try to keep the leg that is going behind you(the kick leg) straight as if you were classic skiing. it's essentially race-walking with ski poles.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. dvoisin
    Member

    I generally tell my skiers that they should use poles that are shorter than used for classic skiing. My rule of thump is mid bicep. Anything longer and you generally don't get good follow through with the poles. Shorter than this and they just get in the way and don't add a lot to the "propulsion" up the hill.

    We tend to do three types of ski walking/bounding. The first (the ski walking) is used for technique work, to keep heart rate down during L1 or, if faster, for Level 3 work. With the lower body, I try to focus on good forward lean, open hips, and keeping your kick legs under you (as opposed to over striding and heel striking). There is a little pop with each step to keep us honest with technique, but only really serves to help with weight shift. With the upper body, I focus on a good pendulum swing of the arms, hand position at point of contact, and engaging the lats. This is definitely not just race walking with poles.

    The second is ski bounding where the pop from "setting the wax" is much more pronounced. So much so that you do indeed leave the ground with the "glide phase" being the time spent in the air. We tend to use this for Level 4 work or following Spenst.

    The last is Spenst. These are short rep, high explosion movements. Typically 3 sets of 10 kicks on each side or so with long rest in between efforts where you really try to bound as hard and far as you can. This is a neuromuscular development tool, not for conditioning. Chris Grover has a great article on it in Master Skier from a few years back.

    Hope this helps.
    Dan Voisin

    Posted 9 months ago #

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